The problem with being an expat making negative statements about Thailand is that there are so many of us/them. Most, despite spending the majority of their time on a bar stool, somehow hold the secret to solving all of Thailand’s woes, from government corruption to stray dogs to getting too many plastic bags at 7-11. However, while I don’t claim to have any magic solutions, I think I’ve built up enough soi-cred to be able to state – with all love for my adopted home – a few negatively-tinged facts about Thailand. My number one beef: customer service.
Maybe it’s the Thai custom of… you know what, I’m not even going to try to dissect it and pin it down to any kind of cultural twist or character nuance. I don’t know. No one knows. It’s a complete mystery, but ‘customer service’ is a phrase completely unknown to many, if not most, Thai customer service reps.
A perfect example of this is the following story: I went to Aldo shoes here at Paragon Mall, because I know Aldo has huge shoes in Canada, and I have huge feet – size 14, which are hard completely impossible to find here. I figured they can order them from the factory, so I asked the clerk.
“Hi, do you have size 14?” “No.” This was expected, no problem. “Okay, can you order them for me?” “No.” “No? Let me ask you this, my good man, where do you get these shoes here?” I ask, holding up a pair. Nervous laughter. “Do you make them here?” I ask. “No.” “So where do you get them from?” I continue, “We order them.” “Can you order them for me?” “Ummmm…” At this point, he does the all-too-familiar panicked look around for a coworker and calls her over. “Hi, can you order shoes for me?” “Yes, but it takes four months.”
That’s all I wanted to hear. No problem, thankyouverymuch and haveagoodday.
This type of ‘automatic no’ is well known to anyone who is trying to get a straight answer. I believe that many Thais think it’s just easier to say “no” and get rid of the problem foreigner before he causes too much trouble. Now, I realize that many Thais don’t speak great English, and this is fine. I’m not expecting stellar language skills – I just want a straight answer.
The following exchange is the most typical type of customer service experience you’re likely to run into if you call to get help with your phone, computer, television, visa, passport, ticket… basically anything that requires you to explain the situation.
“Hi, I was wondering… (detailed description of problem that often takes several minutes).” “Ummm, jusmomen” (rumbling and crackling as they apparently put the phone reciever in their armpit). Background yelling: “(Unintelligible Thai) farang!” More rumbling. “Hello?” “Hi.” “Can I help you?” And then you have to explain your problem again. This is often, although thankfully not always, followed by more rumbling and further explanation to befuddled staff on down the line.
These are just two examples, and the variety in which they come in is both amazing and infuriating.
So, in case you’re unfamiliar with the process, the first time you need to get a problem solved in Thailand, make sure you have a block of about 30 minutes, a pen and paper to write down the alternate (often not working) phone numbers you’ll get, and maybe a good book to while away the time. Always ask for the name of the person you’re speaking to, and speak slowly. It might not get you better service, but it’s harder to raise your voice and swear if you’re talking slowly, which your blood pressure will appreciate.
Look at the bright side…at least you didn’t have a lady boy clerk who was too busy applying make-up under the counter to wait on you!
I agree, they are wayyyy to generous with their plastic bags.
everything you wrote is exactly how I have felt. getting handed off from person to person is pretty annoying! Awesome post
I try to avoid Thailand bashing, too, but this one is frustrating for me, too. It’s not any better if you speak the language, sadly.
But one thing I’ve learned over the years is that while this type of service (or lack thereof) is prevalent, there are plenty who get it. They even have a Thai phrase for it (from English, of course): “Service Mind” เซอร์วิสมายด์. (I think this must be a corruption of the phrase “service-minded”.) In Thai, it’s something you either have or don’t: บริการที่ดีต้องมีเซอร์วิสมายด์.
If you http://www.google.co.th/search?num=100&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=zcp&q=%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%8B%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%A3%E0%B9%8C%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%94%E0%B9%8C&btnG=Search&meta=“ rel=”nofollow”>Google the phrase, you get quite a few hits. So there’s at least a conceptual movement in the right direction.
My most recent experience with good service in Thailand was today, actually. We had some scratches in our car’s paint touched up late last year, and when we got it back there were white speckles on much of the car. They were so small that we didn’t notice right away. We figure it was too close to another paint job and flecks of white paint had floated onto it. Totally moronic thing to let happen.
Anyway, we just got around to taking it back there today after someone backed into our parked car, but we dealt directly with the owner this time. He took us at our word that this was his employees’ fault, and he immediately offered to redo the paint job at no cost to us. He gave us his card and said he’s on call 24 hours, and that he guarantees his work indefinitely. Actually seemed like he meant it, too.
Of course, this isn’t too strange. Managers and owners need to have business sense to survive. They’re not just wage slaves (or as Thais say, มนุษย์เงินเดือน). They also tend to have more exposure to western-style customer service ideas.
So, yeah. Good service has yet to really trickle down to your average employee, but there’s a glimmer of hope that things can change.
Just discovered your blog, btw. Great read.
Thanks for the comments.
DKBKK – You’re right – could have been worse!
Brennan – I just remind myself that every time I say ‘mai sai tung’ (no bag please) I’m saving a baby turtle. 😀
Jay – I feel like I’m on a conveyor belt sometimes.
rikker – You’re right, there are a few glimmers of hope. When I get a particularly pleasant taxi driver, or a funny and polite motorbike driver or someone on the phone who does what they say, I want to send them flowers and add their number to my phone book in the hopes of building up a ‘good service army’ that I’ll gladly pay a good wage to to help with future problems. One can dream. 🙂
Great post and blog. I’ve resisted the temptation to dis Thailand, but lack of customer service would be very high on my peeves list.
The most common scenario for me is the ubiquitous “mai mee”. Not: “We’ll have more in stock soon” or “you can get one from our other branch” or “we can order it for you” or “another shop sells it”. No, just “mai mee”. And why do department stores employ so many useless staff? Sometimes there are more staff than customers. But it doesn’t result in faster service.
The huge number of useless staff in department stores is amazing.
They’re totally clueless and can’t give you any information besides reading the label on a product, which you can do yourself, thank you very much.
Most of the time they will be chatting somewhere and ignoring you which is for the best.
Yet if you pick a product on a shelf and walk to the cashier, they’ll run to pick it up and get their commission.
Customer service in most countries is iffy at best.
Take Malaysia, Singapore and Borneo with their famous ‘tomorrow lah’, ‘next week lah’.
Which sometimes means ‘finish lah’, but usually means that the product has never been there and they have no intentions of ever ordering it for you now or at any point in the future.
They also have this cute phone method of dealing with anything they cannot answer… ‘click’.
I found true that even here in Bangkok at the Brunei Embassy.
The ‘no’ answer here in Thailand frustrates me, as does trying to get assistance in a store full of gossiping staff. Or when you do get someone, they have no clue about the products they were hired to sell.
But the ignorance part is true worldwide.
Not like in my day when we actually had to review any new items before work started. AND know their prices. All for cacca pay too.
But it is no more frustrating than the ‘I’m too good to wait on you’ response I’ve received in the UK.
Or, on the other side of the coin, the sirupy chirpy cheerful staff in the US.
Hey. I have simple needs. I just want my stuff. And I want it now.
🙂
You were right the coins in the photo are Australian 20c pieces
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Good one. I went into an outdoor shop today, in Emporium. I asked for a new shoe, called “Fivefingers” from vibram…
They twisted and turned and I felt bad that I have asked a question that he probably had to answer ‘no’ to…
He said: ‘Let me check with my boss and I can call you, please write your number here.’
I thought, yeah right, sure he’s going to call me.
18.34 (that is 6.34 pm) he had phoned me, a missed call and then he sent me a text message to let me know they were out of stock.
One of those days you know
Marks & Spencers may have larger size shoes for men…I must admit I never looked but it could be worth a shot…
Thanks Madame Chiang, I’ve never actually tried M&S but I’ll swing by… who knows?
you know, I don’t think it’s Thailand bashing to state facts. I have lived here for 10 years now, 3 part time and obviously 7 full time. In a couple more years I will be moving back to the West. Not because I am fed up or hate the Kingdom now or anything like but just because it’s time for various reasons. I have found that the less I hold in the stuff the drives me crazy here the faster it stops bothering me and the sooner I can get back to my day and all the good things here. There is no doubt customer service here is spotty at best and that is still being too generous. The most amazing thing is how my Thai wife now gets so frustrated with other Thai’s when they do really off the wall lame stuff… and asks me why are so many Thai’s so stupid hahaha.. sorry hun can’t help ya… Customer Service… Thailand… same sentence? Not often..