Wow, that was fast! It seems like only a few months ago that my buddy Tony Joh and I were sitting down to record the first Bangkok Podcast. Now, just over one year later, we’re wrapping things up. I’ve been happy to see the amount of support from listeners of the show who are surprised and saddened to see us shut down; it makes me feel really good to know that even a few people enjoyed our little production. I just wanted to scribble down a few thoughts on the show and the how and why we decided not to continue. It might get a bit long, but hey, it’s for posterity.
Firstly, Tony and I are both really proud of the show and very happy we did it. When we started, neither of us had much of a clue what we were doing; Tony knew the basics of how to set things up online, and I had some knowledge of editing and audio production, but neither of us really knew if everything would happen the way we hoped it would. It was a great trial-by-fire experience, really – a perfect example of ‘learn by doing’.
At the beginning, we thought that the majority of the shows would be just me and him talking about life in Thailand, but as we grew, we were pleasantly surprised to find that there were a large number of people willing to come on for an interview. We ended up getting some pretty kick-ass guests, all told. Journalists, celebrities, monks, business owners, ambassadors, educators, politicians, linguists, authors, bloggers and more all helped us put together some pretty interesting content. A huge thanks goes out to everyone who came on the show – I genuinely enjoyed talking to every one of them.
But as we wrap things up, I’ve gotten a good number of questions – some of them with a hint of condescension – along the lines of “Can’t you find a new host?” or “Why, don’t you like doing it anymore?” Oh, if only it were that simple. The truth of the matter is that putting the podcast together was an assload of work, and I’m not sure people realize how much.
We recorded every Sunday – without fail – which means that for the past year Tony and I basically only had one day off per week, when you factor in our jobs. There was a lot of preparation for each show – finding a guest, arranging a recording time for when all three of us would be free, doing a bit of research on said guest, booking the studio, coming up with an intro topic, arranging an interview for the next show so we could say “Join us next week when…”, and going through the emails from BK Magazine & picking out a few events to mention during the intro. Most of this was done late at night throughout the week over email, phone, SMS, and a shared Google Calendar.
When it came to recording a show, it wasn’t as simple as sitting down and pressing record. Oftentime we’d never met our guest before, so there was always a bit of pre-show banter, setting up and testing the equipment, and then recording. After the guest left, we’d usually record the intro/extro for that show, and the intro/extro for any upcoming shows, depending on our schedule. All told, it took about 2 hours to record each episode, not counting travel time.
Now, I know our sound quality was never top-notch, but we managed to get the most out of our meager equipment. After editing the show, the timeline often looked like a stretch of Bangkok sidewalk, with pits and gaps all over the damn place. I had to break apart our stereo recording into two separate mono tracks, apply noise filters, volume limiters, EQ adjustments, and compressor effects, as well as add in the music bumpers and an intro/extro that may have been recorded that afternoon, or the previous month. Then I had to listen to the whole show in real time, cutting out as many pops, pauses, do-overs and dead spaces as I could. Once that was done, I generated an .aif file (for a safety backup), which takes 10 minutes, an MP3 (for upload) which took about 30 minutes, and then upload the file to our host (about 30 minutes). So on average, each episode took between 3 to 4 hours to edit (more when my unpredictable computer would crash).
Phew.
At any rate, the other most common question is why I don’t just find another co-host. Well, it could be done. Even if I couldn’t find someone who could do it every week, I’m sure I could find 5 or 6 people who could rotate. But the podcast is at least a two-man show; with Tony gone, someone would have to do all the things I don’t know how to do or don’t have time to do: dealing with the host provider, linking all the episodes to iTunes, managing subscriptions, updating the website, negotiating affiliate deals, answering emails, updating Facebook and Twitter, adjusting SEO, and more. Yes, I could probably find an intern to handle most of them, but they’d be working for free, as Tony and I haven’t made a dime from the show.
But most importantly, with a full-time job, taking time to enjoy life, and a wedding to plan – free time is just one thing I don’t have right now.
But in the end, we met a ton of great people, have something cool to put on our resume, and learned about a whole new area we’d never experienced, and that ain’t never a bad thing. As for the future, who knows? Neither of us wants to say it’s done for good – there may be a few special shows down the road, but we’ll have to see what happens. Thanks for listening, and see you on the flip side.
All the best and thanks for all the great shows you have done, which have provided me with a lot of help.
I plan to visit Bangkok for the third time in January and your shows have been truly inspirational to me
Cheers guys 😉
Great job guys, have enjoyed your show a lot. On Sundays here in Bangkok I was forced to choose between listening to CBC and your show, you almost always won. Well Done and best of luck in the future.
Thanks Jeff and Jonny, appreciate the kind words. It's been fun, but onward and upward. Make sure to follow Tony's new Tokyo Podcast, and don't let your BP links die yet – we may have a few special shows in the future. 🙂
Sad to see, the show closing off….I listened to almost every show, the presentation, the humor were perfect…and just to know, I was listening from India, the show was really global..I would really miss the show…but hey, looking forward to some of the special shows you plan to put up down the road :o)
Thanks Greg and Tony..you guys were great…
Hey guys. Sorry to learn the show is going off air, but understand the reasons. I feel privileged to have been a guest and really enjoyed meeting and talking to you. In my view Bangkok Podcast was one in a long (but quite thin) line of public spirited happenings, put together by members of the expat community just because it'd be cool to do it. You remind me of the days of Bangkok Poetry at the About Cafe and Bangkok Film Night on Suk 11. Long may the line continue in the trail that you have been the latest part in blazing.
Hamish
Greg and Tony,
I only recently discovered the Bangkok Podcast and am gradually making my way through all the episodes. Like many others, I'll be sad to see it go, but seeing how much time and effort goes into each show it's a wonder you've both kept it going as long as you have. Anyway, just wanted to say thank you for all the great shows produced with the perfect mix of humour and insights that made it so enjoyable to listen to. Best of luck lads in all you do in the future.
Roy
Roy, thanks for the kind words, as I say, keep following our FB page and check the website every once in a while, there might be a few new shows in the futre.
Hamish, it was great to have you as a guest, too bad we didn't get a chance to do another one. I agree, every so often there's a great new thing, but it usually fades away after a while. I did standup comedy here for a while, which didn't last long, and I know the About Cafe you mentioned, that place was great. I also think I was in the very early days of the film night – Kaprice started that, right?
I didn't mention it above, but one wall we kept bumping into was that 90% of the people we met in Thailand had no idea what a podcast was or how to listen to one – kind of a hard sell. 🙂
Greg, Tony,
Just want to say thanks for the weekly entertainment I have enjoyed for the past 8 months or so since discovering Banglok Podcast.
I will without any doubt really miss listening to you guys during my drive to work on Monday mornings.
It's a shame you cannot work something out to keep the podcast going, but totally understandable.
All the best for the future guys!
Lindsay
Thanks Lindsay, very kind of you! If you're in Bangkok, come down to our farewell party on Sept 10th, good times guaranteed!*
*not a guarantee, but likely
I would like to thank you both, Tony and Gerg, for bringing us the show. The work you guys done makes me in love with this city again. 🙂
Like Roy, I just discovered Bangkok Podcast and now I'm voraciously downloading each episode. You and Tony are naturals in front of the microphone – engaging, humorous, and you keep the pace up just right. Some podcasts I just want to fall asleep with all the umms and aaahs.
I'm planning to return to Bangkok in about 7 months (fingers crossed) so you're getting me up to date since I moved back to California 6 years ago. Your audience is truly global!
BTW, what music do you use for the intro and ending? It's funky and cool – I love it!
Thanks Dominic and Amy! Glad you liked it, and glad you saw what Tony and I were trying to do, which is show that Bangkok is so much more than sleazy nightlife and beach-bound hippies.
Amy, the music we used was written by Alec Harrison, an old friend of mine in Canada who runs http://www.RedShiftStudios.ca if you want to check it out. He's a really talented guy.
I started listening to the Bangkok podcast the moment I knew I was moving to Bangkok. This was at the end of 2011, when you had already wrapped up. It has become one of my all time favourite podcasts. When we were still in Madrid, it helped us get an idea of what we were getting into. Now that we´ve been here for a year and a half, I regularly go back and listen to some of the episodes again, and I find myself nodding and agreeing… I still really enjoy it and I am now happy that I found your blog!
Hi Ari, thanks! Glad you like it and still find it useful a few years after we shut it down. Blogs, Instagram, Facebok, Twitter…I’m still spewing my rants on the interwebs. 🙂